GPU-on-gemma session findings: boltzmann kernel/boot matrix (edk2 UEFI->GRUB, grub-reboot one-shot), marfrit-A1 hangs GPU dispatch at 0% CPU while plain mainline runs (91% CPU), Mesa panthor uABI identical for all panvk paths (only additive TIMESTAMP delta) so header rebuild is futile, 26B too big for Mali VA (sub-4GB heaps), don't pkill mid-GPU-job (wedges context).
6.6 KiB
Gemma-on-Mali-GPU bring-up + panthor kernel matrix (2026-07-12)
Goal: run gemma-4-26B-A4B (Q4 QAT, MoE 4B-active) on boltzmann's Mali-G610 via panvk
for prefill acceleration. (Decode stays DDR-bandwidth-walled regardless — unified memory,
~28 GB/s shared CPU/GPU; the GPU only helps compute-bound prefill.)
This session did NOT reach a clean coherence+speed number on the GPU. It DID map the kernel/boot landscape and eliminate several hypotheses. Recorded here so the trail survives compaction.
boltzmann kernel matrix (critical reference)
Boot chain: edk2 UEFI → GRUB (NOT extlinux/u-boot; /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf is stale
and ignored). GRUB cfg /boot/grub/grub.cfg, GRUB_DEFAULT="BredOS Linux 6.1.75-npu-port ...",
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 menu. grubenv honors next_entry (grub.cfg lines ~14-17) so grub-reboot
one-shot works: boots the chosen entry once, auto-reverts to the npu-port default. Safe for
remote/headless (a bad boot self-heals on the next reboot). lmcp.service is enabled → MCP
returns after reboot; SSH-via-hertz (ssh mfritsche@boltzmann) is the fallback.
| uname -r | GRUB entry | GPU driver | panvk compute | notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
6.1.75-npu-port |
default | mali blob + RKNPU | n/a (no Vulkan) | the NPU/DeepSeek kernel; GPU on vendor blob |
7.0.0-rc3 |
BredOS Linux (mainline 7.0.0-rc3) |
panthor 1.7.0 | RUNS (91% CPU, state Rl) | plain linux-rockchip-mainline, Mar-29 build. The champion panvk kernel (by elimination). |
7.0.0-rc3-ARCH+ |
BredOS Linux marfrit-A1 (NVMe-fixed ...) |
panthor 1.7.0 | HANGS (0% CPU, state Ss, no output, no dmesg fault) | marfrit-A1, NVMe-hardened. Chose it first for NVMe safety; it hangs every GPU dispatch. |
7.0.0-rc3-dirty |
— | — | — | orphaned module tree, no vmlinuz → NOT GRUB-bootable |
To select plain mainline for one boot:
sudo grub-reboot 'BredOS Linux (mainline 7.0.0-rc3)' then verify
sudo grub-editenv /boot/grub/grubenv list | grep next_entry, then sudo reboot.
Findings / eliminated hypotheses
-
A1 hangs panvk compute; plain 7.0.0-rc3 runs it. On A1, llama.cpp Vulkan blocks at 0% CPU at model load for EVERY build (July mainline + the May champion that hit 28 t/s on a prior boot) and EVERY model (gemma-26B, gemma-E2B, even the champion's own qwen2.5-3b).
vulkaninfo --summaryworks on both (enumerate path OK); it's the compute-submit path that wedges — a fence that never signals. On plain 7.0.0-rc3 the first CLI run actually executed (91% CPU, state Rl). -
"Rebuild panvk vs A1 headers" is DISPROVEN — do not do it. Diffed Mesa's bundled
include/drm-uapi/panthor_drm.hvs the system/kernelpanthor_drm.h: byte-identical for every ioctl/struct panvk uses (BO create, VM bind, group submit, sync). The ONLY delta is an additiveDRM_PANTHOR_TIMESTAMP_*query family that old panvk never calls. A uABI mismatch would also produce -EINVAL, not a hang. So the champion Mesa's ioctls are already correct for this kernel; rebuilding changes nothing. -
Firmware is fine. Both kernels:
CSF FW using interface v1.5.0,Initialized panthor 1.7.0, same firmware git sha95a25d71.... Not a firmware-load issue. -
Same panthor version on both → the A1-vs-plain difference is NOT the driver version. Both report panthor 1.7.0. OPEN QUESTION why A1 hangs and plain runs (kernel build config? the "+A1" NVMe patch touching something? job-init path? or the single plain-mainline success was order/GPU-state dependent). Unresolved.
-
Model-size wall on the Mali. gemma-26B Q4 (~13 GB) cannot be fully offloaded — panvk's private VA heaps are sub-4GB (see root-cause docs), so
-ngl 99on the big model hangs on allocation. Even if correctness is proven, full offload of the 26B is impossible; only a fraction of layers fit → prefill benefit is partial-layer at best. The champion 28 t/s result was a fully-fitting 3B model. Small models (qwen2.5-3b 1.9GB, gemma-4-E2B 2.8GB) DO fit.
Discipline notes (learned the hard way)
- Never
pkilla panvk job mid-compute. It wedges the GPU context; subsequent Vulkan init on the next process blocks at 0% CPU with a 0-byte log (looks identical to the A1 hang). Let a running GPU job finish, or reboot to clear GPU state. llama-cli -no-cnvstill dropped into interactive mode in the July build (shows/exithelp +>prompts) — muddies output capture. Prefer llama-server +/completionfor a clean coherence/speed read on the GPU.- Detached launches via
ssh ... setsid bash -c "..." &were unreliable (log never created). Use the boltzmann MCPshell_bgtool instead — it detaches reliably.
Correctness/QK-norm context (from earlier characterization)
The "gemma/Qwen3 garbage on Vulkan" is a known upstream regression class (llama.cpp issue
#20610: garbage since build b8184; hits RTX/AMD/Mali; quant/coopmat/dequant-shaped), NOT a
Mali-only QK-norm mystery. So the correctness gate is "find the correct build," and the STOCK
July mainline Vulkan build was pulled specifically to test whether upstream already renders gemma
correctly — never got a clean read due to the kernel/GPU-state issues above. Note the champion
SPEED shader (mul_mmq warptile) is NOT in the July build yet; correctness was always the first
gate, speed second.
Next steps (clean, in order)
- One-shot reboot into plain
7.0.0-rc3(fresh GPU state). shell_bga SINGLE llama-server on the GPU with a small QK-norm model that fully fits (gemma-4-E2B2.8GB is ideal — same gemma4 arch as the target),-ngl 99. Do not kill it./completionPOST → read coherence (correct vs garbage) + prefill/decode t/s.- If gemma4-E2B is correct on GPU: the 26B correctness question is answered (arch works); the remaining blocker is purely the VA/size limit for the big model.
- Only then consider porting the champion
mul_mmqshader onto the July build for prefill speed.
Build artifacts (on boltzmann, not in this repo)
~/src/llama.cpp-latest/build-vulkan/— STOCK July mainline,GGML_VULKAN=ON(gemma4 arch).~/src/llama.cpp/build-vulkan/— May champion build (has themul_mmqwarptile shader) but predates gemma4 arch (can't load gemma4 models).- panvk ICD:
~/rocky-panvk-icd.json→ the patched champion Mesalibvulkan_panfrost.so(shared-TLS/WLS OOM fix). Env:PANVK_SHARED_TLS=1 PANVK_WLS_REUSE=1. - Models:
~/models/gemma4-a4b/(Q4 QAT 13GB, UD-Q2 9.8GB, MTP draft),~/models/gemma-4-E2B-it-Q4_K_M.gguf,~/models/qwen2.5-3b-instruct-q4_k_m.gguf.