Calibration: M4 same-kernel measures worst-case contention
User-flagged 2026-05-18: the cycles 3 (MC) + 5 (CDEF) 'CPU only'
verdicts were based on M4 measuring same-kernel concurrent NEON+QPU,
which is the WORST case for memory-bandwidth contention. A real
decoder pipeline has CPU doing kernel A + QPU doing kernel B
concurrently — different access patterns contend less.
Concretely: in a real pipeline, CPU runs entropy + MC + other work
while QPU is idle except for IDCT + LPF. The 'opportunistic QPU
helper' for CDEF (or MC) hasn't been measured. M4 set the bar too
high.
Updates:
- docs/k3_mc_phase7.md §'M4 methodology caveat' added with the
user's contribution framing
- docs/k5_cdef_phase3_partial.md §'Deployment recommendation'
softened from 'CPU only' to 'CPU baseline; QPU helper viable in
mixed-kernel deployment, unmeasured'
- docs/issues/003-mixed-kernel-m4-bench.md filed — the rigorous
test to close the question (4 variants: bandwidth+bandwidth,
compute+CDEF, same-kernel control, real-pipeline mix)
- ~/.claude/projects/-home-mfritsche-src-daedalus-fourier/memory/
feedback_m4_same_kernel_worst_case.md added — carries the
calibration into future cycles + Phase 8 deployment decisions
- MEMORY.md index updated
The bandwidth-bound vs compute-bound classification still holds at
the kernel level — Phase 9 cross-cycle lesson stays valid. But its
mapping to deployment is nuanced:
- Bandwidth-bound on QPU → DEFINITIVE offload (M4 +ve, cycles 1+2+4)
- Compute-bound on QPU → OPPORTUNISTIC helper if pipeline has
bandwidth-light CPU work running concurrently (cycles 3+5,
needs Issue 003 measurement)
Phase 8 V4L2 wrapper should keep CDEF + MC slot-able to either CPU
or QPU at runtime (not hard-baked), so Issue 003's result can update
the dispatch table without re-architecture.
No code changes. Doc + memory + issue only.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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# Issue 003 — Mixed-kernel M4 bench (closes cycle 3/5 deployment verdict)
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**Status**: open, blocks Phase 8 deployment plumbing for cycles 3+5
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**Type**: measurement gap; methodology fix
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**Predicted verdict**: cycle 3 MC + cycle 5 CDEF may flip from
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"CPU only" to "opportunistic QPU helper"
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**Priority**: medium (changes deployment recipe; doesn't block other cycles)
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**Filed**: 2026-05-18
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## Background
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Cycles 3 (MC) and 5 (CDEF, partial) were verdict'd "stay on CPU"
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based on M4 measurements showing mixed NEON-3 + QPU running the
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**same kernel** ran SLOWER than pure NEON-4. Specifically:
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| | NEON-4 | NEON-3 + QPU | delta |
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|---|---|---|---|
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| Cycle 3 MC | 15.25 Mblock/s | 12.28 | **−19.5 %** |
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| Cycle 5 CDEF (predicted) | ~ 12-15 | ~ 10-12 | negative |
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But this is the **worst-case contention scenario**: both substrates
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competing for the same memory bus with the same access pattern.
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**Real decoder pipeline shape**: CPU runs entropy + MC + LR + other
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work concurrently; QPU runs IDCT + LPF (currently) + (potentially)
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CDEF/MC. Different kernels on different substrates contend
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*less* than same-kernel-on-both.
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The user-flagged calibration (2026-05-18): the M4 "same-kernel"
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test sets the bar too high. A "different-kernel" test would more
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accurately reflect deployment.
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## What to measure
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A new bench harness `tests/bench_concurrent_mixed.c` that runs:
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| Variant | CPU side (NEON-3 pinned) | QPU side (1 core) | Captures |
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|---|---|---|---|
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| A | LPF wd=4 (bandwidth-bound, like real LPF stage) | CDEF | CDEF helper throughput; CPU LPF throughput drop |
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| B | MC (compute-bound, like real MC stage) | CDEF | CDEF helper throughput; CPU MC throughput drop |
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| C | MC | MC | (cycle 3 M4 control) |
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| D | LPF wd=4 + MC alternating (proxy for "CPU doing mixed real work") | CDEF | Real-pipeline approximation |
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Compute "QPU helper value" = (mixed total throughput in the relevant
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kernel) − (CPU-only baseline) for each variant.
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If variant A or B shows the QPU adds positive CDEF throughput
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without significantly reducing the CPU kernel's throughput, then
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CDEF deserves an "opportunistic helper" verdict instead of
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"CPU only".
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## Expected outcome
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Per the user's "5 % CPU drop / 50 % bored QPU" framing:
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- Variant A (bandwidth+bandwidth): QPU contention with bandwidth-
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heavy LPF is real; QPU contribution likely ~70 % of isolation
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- Variant B (compute+CDEF): MC is the worst-saturated case from
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cycle 3; QPU likely under-contributes, CPU MC may drop. Net
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result ~ cycle 3 M4 (−19.5 % rerun)
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- Variant D (mixed): probably the closest-to-deployment number.
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Best estimate of "additional QPU helper" value.
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## Acceptance criteria
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- `tests/bench_concurrent_mixed.c` lands, 4 variants measurable
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- Verdict per variant: "+X.X %" CDEF throughput vs pure CPU baseline
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- Cycle 3 and cycle 5 deployment recipes updated either way
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- `docs/k3_mc_phase7.md §"M4 methodology caveat"` updated with
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results
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## Why deferred
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User-directed cycle 5 was CDEF; M4 methodology calibration only
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surfaced AFTER cycle 5 close. The fix is its own ~half-day bench
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work, separable from any cycle's kernel implementation.
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## Related
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- `docs/k3_mc_phase7.md §"M4 methodology caveat"` (the calibration
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doc with the user's contribution)
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- `docs/k5_cdef_phase3_partial.md §"Deployment recommendation"`
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(softened verdict pending this issue)
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- `tests/bench_concurrent_mc.c` (cycle 3 same-kernel bench;
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template for the mixed-kernel variant)
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- `tests/bench_concurrent_lpf.c` + `bench_concurrent_lpf8.c`
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(cycle 2/4 bench templates)
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- Memory: `feedback_m4_same_kernel_worst_case.md`
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- **IDCT (cycle 1)** → QPU. R = 0.92, +7 % mixed, frees a CPU core.
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- **LPF (cycle 2)** → QPU. R = 0.41, +7 % mixed, frees a CPU core.
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- **MC (cycle 3)** → **CPU NEON**. R = 0.067, −19.5 % mixed.
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Compute-bound on CPU but CPU already comfortably exceeds 30fps;
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offload makes things worse.
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- **MC (cycle 3)** → **CPU NEON baseline; QPU offload viable as
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opportunistic helper, not yet measured.** R = 0.067 in isolation
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was discouraging; M4 same-kernel mixed was −19.5 % which looks
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conclusive but isn't — see *M4 methodology caveat* below.
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- **Entropy** (VP9 Bool / AV1 ANS) → CPU. Structurally serial.
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This is a **mixed-substrate deployment**, not a "QPU does everything"
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plan. Realistic for higgs: entropy + MC on 2-3 ARM cores; IDCT + LPF
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dispatched to QPU concurrently; 1-2 ARM cores left for vscode / etc.
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## M4 methodology caveat (added 2026-05-18 after cycle 5)
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The M4 mixed bench (`bench_concurrent_mc.c`) tests NEON-3 + QPU
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running the SAME kernel concurrently. This is the **worst case** for
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memory-bandwidth contention — both substrates competing for the same
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bus with the same access pattern.
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A real decoder pipeline has different shape: CPU runs entropy + MC
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+ other CPU-bound work; QPU runs IDCT + LPF + (potentially) MC as
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opportunistic helper. **Different kernels on different substrates**
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contend less than same-kernel-on-both. Our M4-same-kernel result is
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a pessimistic lower bound, not the actual deployment number.
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Empirically supporting this: cycle 3 M4 showed per-core NEON
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throughput in 3-core mode (3.78-4.16 Mblock/s) was higher than in
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4-core mode (3.24-4.48), confirming bandwidth saturation at ≥4
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cores. So freeing 1 core via QPU offload costs ~25 % of total NEON
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MC throughput, but the QPU contributes 0.45 (-MC) or 1.4 (in CDEF
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isolation) on top.
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**To rigorously test the helper hypothesis**: see
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`docs/issues/003-mixed-kernel-m4-bench.md`. A bench that runs
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NEON-3 on kernel-A + QPU on kernel-B concurrently would close the
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question. ~½ day of additional bench work; would update the
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deployment recipe for cycles 3 + 5 if the result is positive.
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## Decision per Phase 1 rules + 30fps-floor calibration
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| Rule | Result | Status |
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@@ -95,11 +95,27 @@ chasing two layout issues simultaneously).
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- 30fps floor: still PASS on isolation+mixed since NEON 4-core
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baseline likely 12+ Mblock/s, comfortably above 0.972
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**Deployment recommendation** (provisional, pending Phase 4-7):
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CDEF stays on CPU. Same verdict as MC. **All compute-bound kernels
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stay on CPU; all bandwidth-bound (IDCT/LPF) kernels offload to QPU.**
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This is starting to look like a clean classification rule across all
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cycles.
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**Deployment recommendation** (provisional, pending Phase 4-7 +
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Issue 003 mixed-kernel M4): **CDEF baseline = CPU, QPU offload
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viable as opportunistic helper, not measured**.
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Same caveat as cycle 3 MC (see `k3_mc_phase7.md §"M4 methodology
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caveat"`): our M4 measures same-kernel concurrent contention, which
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is the worst case. In a real decoder pipeline where CPU is doing
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entropy + MC + other work, taking CDEF off the CPU's plate could
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plausibly add throughput even at R = 0.05-ish — because the QPU is
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otherwise idle, the contention is across different kernels (less
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collision than same-kernel), and the lost-CPU-core-cost shrinks
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when the CPU has other work to fill in.
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The **bandwidth-bound vs compute-bound classification rule** still
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holds at the kernel level, but its mapping to deployment is more
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nuanced than "compute-bound → never QPU." Better framing:
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- **Bandwidth-bound on QPU** → **definitive** QPU offload (cycle 1+2+4)
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- **Compute-bound on QPU** → **opportunistic** QPU helper if pipeline
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has bandwidth-light CPU work running concurrently (cycle 3+5,
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needs Issue 003 measurement to confirm)
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## Phase 9 lessons (provisional)
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